Us in God in us in Jesus in God
- One add One = One
- In = just a Part
- One and the same-the unfathomable union of the trinity
- The body of Christ
lKerr describes how our soul is made of multiple layers rather like a book opened up and seeing the pages fan out. The Holy Spirit has an infinite number of these layers and deposits one of them in us at salvation, Kerr describes it as a ‘whole’ of of him. Jesus, likewise, can deposit some of himself in us. Kerr has not revealed if this is a soul layer or not. I received this revelation and searched the scripture to see if it was true and found good evidence to support it. (Acts 17:11)
I tentatively suggest that:
- The Bible uses the word ‘in’ for an indwelling then it is permanent and involves a ‘part ‘of some person being in a ‘whole’ of someone else.
- When the Bible says two persons becoming ‘one’ then this refers to a temporary union between two whole persons.
- One body in Christ is an as yet unfathomable union.
- As well as becoming ‘one’, then above and beyond this Jesus, The Father and The Holy Spirit are one and the same in some unfathomable way.
Gen 2:24 ..and they shall be one flesh. So a format is established when two are intimately joined-two whole persons-then they are described as one. God had to add flesh to differentiate from a spiritual union which would mean a spiritual ‘joining’ between the two whole persons otherwise. Whole person to whole person = one. And this is temporary?
Eph 2:6 ..and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:This is Paul talking whilst alive, how can he sit in heavenly places with Christ, Paul is on Earth. I suggest a layer of our souls is taken to heaven at salivation. l(Kat Kerr)
Romans 12 5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. So by some unknown mystery we Christians are ‘one’ body. One meaning the whole person.’ All of us somehow being one person. And permanently? in a whole Christ = one body
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his- two spirits dwell in us-the spirit of God (The Holy Sprit) and the spirit of Christ because ‘in’ is used it is just a part of Christ and a part of The Holy Spirit. The Bible seems to define a part of The Holy Spirit as a part of God himself. This relationship appears to be permanent.
John 10 30 I and my Father are one-An unfathomable union and sameness. This describes a permanent relationship between Jesus and the Father. A description of a shared identity.
John 17:21–24 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Several relationships are defined here, ‘that they may also be ‘one’ ‘as the word ‘one’ is used it applies to the ‘whole’ person so this refers to the ‘whole group of persons-all the individuals in the body of Christ and not a part.of them all ‘one’ with each other. ‘Father, art in me, and I in thee’ The father is in Christ (layers of the Holy Spirit possibly or the unfathomable ‘one’ possibly) Jesus is in the Father (a part of Jesus ) ‘that they also may be one in us.’ As well as the (whole) persons of the body of Christ being one then they will be one ( as a whole person) with Jesus and also with God as he has a part in Jesus too. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one, here a different relationship is defined, Jesus is praying for man to have the same relationship with the Father as Jesus himself does. Jesus describes this as God and Jesus being ‘one’. How can this be? If that was so then we and God would be one also-that would change everything, not a triune God more a ‘multiune’ God? Which cannot be. This relationship cannot be the whole relationship between Jesus and the Father. This is consistent with the use of ‘one’ as temporary event between two whole persons – Jesus and The Holy Spirit can step in and out of God-The holiest place in heaven. We will too. I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one. A part of Jesus permanently in us, a part of God (The Holy Spirit) permanently in Jesus to be made perfect as one body in Christ.